910SH 没有网络锁???

xiao_ming_2

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国内最迟会在明年2月确定3G发牌,但是政府还是比较支持TD-SCDMA.直至现在为止在试验阶段

以用了16个亿了.但各个网络运营商对TD-SCDMA还是不太接纳.....WCDMA是当今世界最大众

的3G网络制式.但是中国的梦想是将他的TD-SCDMA成为以后的 主流制式~~~无奈...就算没

网络锁也用不了啊~~~~可能再等几年国家可能会发WCDMA的牌照把~~~

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bzangel

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绝对骗子!
docomo的foma只有自己在用的,凭什么softbank的手机能够支持foma的网络???
所以说用910装foma的卡打电话绝对是骗人胡说八道的!
 

怪物甲

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引用第19楼matthewpet2006-11-23 17:00发表的:
SB也不傻,如果把機器放出來,然後你去解約,用其他公司的卡,虧得還是你自己~
比如用Docomo,你要換清SB的2年的錢+ docomo的機器+docomo的每個月租金,
你說誰去拿SB的機器用foma的卡?而且還不能用!!!FOMA網絡和SB 的WCDMA格式不一樣雖然都是Wcdma!
胡说了不是
wcdma网络是一样的
解锁之后,903sh照样可以通用foma和softbank的wcdma的网络
 

matthewpet

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FOMA不是和TD-CDMA和囯内那個一樣嗎?我馬上到日本轉飛機,能不能用我去試試看就知道了, 反正日本shopping一段時間,問個日本人借個FOMA的綠卡就可以了。但是就我那些日本的同學都說,FOMA網絡只有日本在用,WCDMA一种,但是和vodafone的不一樣。聽説而已,我到時候去了就知道了。錯了的話不好意思...

22樓在日本的也說不能用吧! 而且WCDMA的網絡,就903來説,在英國是一天到晚收不到信號(日文版本...跑到樓下廚房就沒有out了)除了video call,其他時間還是GSM號點。。。而且跑個邊遠地區還沒有3G...
 

怪物甲

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引用第26楼matthewpet2006-11-24 00:03发表的:
FOMA不是和TD-CDMA和囯内那個一樣嗎?我馬上到日本轉飛機,能不能用我去試試看就知道了, 反正日本shopping一段時間,問個日本人借個FOMA的綠卡就可以了。但是就我那些日本的同學都說,FOMA網絡只有日本在用,WCDMA一种,但是和vodafone的不一樣。聽説而已,我到時候去了就知道了。錯了的話不好意思...

22樓在日本的也說不能用吧! 而且WCDMA的網絡,就903來説,在英國是一天到晚收不到信號(日文版本...跑到樓下廚房就沒有out了)除了video call,其他時間還是GSM號點。。。而且跑個邊遠地區還沒有3G...
foma的就是wcdma,不是tdscdma
目前tdscdma的网络,只有中国有试验网,还没有一个在商用的tdscdma的网络
 

matthewpet

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我的意思是,foma和tdscdma一樣,使什麽什麽專利,不是一樣的網絡,但是只有日本在用foma把~國内的什麽3G網絡我也不知道。。。反正看到n多人在罵就對了...
剛剛找了個日本同學,Docomo機器漫遊的,卡插到我903上面(903解鎖了,但是沒有改中文,GSM有網絡,WCDMA也有)但是我想贏該是在日本去試試foma卡在903上面...然後看看到底能不能用FOMA的網絡
 

matthewpet

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FOMA, officially short for Freedom of Mobile Multimedia Access, is the brand name for the 3G services being offered by Japanese mobile phone operator NTT DoCoMo.

FOMA was the world's first W-CDMA 3G service when launched in 2001. FOMA is compatible with standard UMTS, both via the radio link as well as via USIM card exchange, and hence provides several alternative options for global roaming: either with or without change of handset.

The world's first commercial W-CDMA service, FOMA, was launched by NTT DoCoMo in Japan in 2001.

Elsewhere, W-CDMA deployments have been exclusively UMTS based.



NTT DoCoMo's 3G network, FOMA, was the first commercial network using W-CDMA since 2002. The first W-CDMA version used by NTT DoCoMo was incompatible with the UMTS standard at the radio level, however USIM cards used by FOMA phones are compatible with GSM phones, so that USIM card based roaming is possible from Japan to GSM areas without any problem. Today the NTT DoCoMo network — as well as all the W-CDMA networks in the world — use the standard version of UMTS, allowing potential global roaming. Whether and under which conditions roaming can actually be used by subscribers depends on the commercial agreements between operators.
 

matthewpet

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System#Real-world_implementations
大概意思就是,
除了日本docomo用的foma w-cdma以外,其他地區的w-cdma都是UMTS,(903sh裏面顯示的是UTMS or GSM網絡選擇。) 相同的是,利用radio link或者USIM card exchange來提供服務。
日本docomo 2001年用的是FOMA,不然的話,其他地方都是UTMS.
但是FOMA的radio level和其他的UMTS是不一樣的。

therefore, 就這樣看來,FOMA的網絡是WCDMA的一种,但是和歐洲這裡用的UTMS不是一樣的。

PS,
有台810sh漫遊的話,3G網絡也是收的刀信號的,漫遊不一定要GSM
 

matthewpet

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引用第31楼戒严部队0012006-11-24 00:45发表的:
你的那个网址中国是上不了的.中国已经封锁了,伟级百科,只有国外才能上.

...我只是把在那裏找到的寫出來罷了~ [s:19] [s:19] [s:19]
樓上的在日本?
 

matthewpet

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日本永住拿到回國。。。好羡慕啊~這裡永住披下來,5年裏面還要住滿2年,要麽就沒有了 [s:19] [s:19] [s:19] 我同學把P 都換了...畢業了也換...
對了,到底vodafone機器能不能用FOMA網絡?
 

怪物甲

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引用第30楼matthewpet2006-11-24 00:41发表的:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System#Real-world_implementations
大概意思就是,
除了日本docomo用的foma w-cdma以外,其他地區的w-cdma都是UMTS,(903sh裏面顯示的是UTMS or GSM網絡選擇。) 相同的是,利用radio link或者USIM card exchange來提供服務。
日本docomo 2001年用的是FOMA,不然的話,其他地方都是UTMS.
但是FOMA的radio level和其他的UMTS是不一樣的。
.......
英文我还是看得明白的
但是我可以告诉你哦,wcdma就是wcdma,又成为UMTS
softbank的网络,也是wcdma的
docomo公司只是把它的wcdma移动网络部分 专门采用了FOMA这个词汇
你要是不信,你可以看看别人的903sh的解锁图片上 运营商名称显示docomo的

不信的话 你问问楼上那位在日本的
没有网络锁的机器 foma的网络 和 softbank的 是同一种
 

yangji626101

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如果是怪物说的那样,那么所有基于WCDMA网络的都是互相兼容的么 [s:12] [s:12] [s:12] [s:12]
 

怪物甲

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引用第36楼yangji6261012006-11-24 01:11发表的:
如果是怪物说的那样,那么所有基于WCDMA网络的都是互相兼容的么 [s:12] [s:12] [s:12] [s:12]
没有带网络锁的手机 都可以正常使用到wcdma的网络
 

matthewpet

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3G
W-CDMA
-UMTS (3GSM)
-FOMA
TD-CDMA/UMTS-TDD
1xEV-DO/IS-856
TD-SCDMA
GAN/UMA

Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) is one of the third-generation (3G) mobile phone technologies. The currently most common form uses W-CDMA as the underlying air interface, is standardized by the 3GPP, and is the European answer to the ITU IMT-2000 requirements for 3G Cellular radio systems.

To differentiate UMTS from competing network technologies, UMTS is sometimes marketed as 3GSM, emphasizing the combination of the 3G nature of the technology and the GSM standard which it was designed to succeed.

Vodafone Japan (formerly J-Phone) operates a 3G network based on UMTS compatible W-CDMA technology, that launched in December 2002. Lack of investment in the network through 2003 meant that coverage was slow to expand and subscriber numbers remained low. The network was publicly relaunched in October 2004 and again in 2005, and Vodafone now claims network coverage of 99% of the population, while 15% of their subscribers are 3G users.

NTT DoCoMo's 3G network, FOMA, was the first commercial network using W-CDMA since 2002. The first W-CDMA version used by NTT DoCoMo was incompatible with the UMTS standard at the radio level, however USIM cards used by FOMA phones are compatible with GSM phones, so that USIM card based roaming is possible from Japan to GSM areas without any problem. Today the NTT DoCoMo network — as well as all the W-CDMA networks in the world — use the standard version of UMTS, allowing potential global roaming. Whether and under which conditions roaming can actually be used by subscribers depends on the commercial agreements between operators.
 

yangji626101

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LS的何必呢,英文考试么,自己翻译出来,不是每个人都看得懂的,我倒还勉强看咯 [s:19] [s:19] [s:19]
 

matthewpet

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There are other competing 3G standards, such as FOMA, CDMA2000 and TD-SCDMA, though UMTS can use the latter's air interface standard. FOMA and UMTS similarly share the W-CDMA air interface system.

3GPP: the body that manages the UMTS standard.
W-CDMA: the primary air interface standard used by UMTS.
HSDPA, HSDPA: updates to the W-CDMA air interface.
3GPP Long Term Evolution, the 3GPP project to evolve UMTS towards 4G capabilities.
GAN/UMA: A standard for running GSM and UMTS over wireless LANs.
UMTS-TDD: a variant of UMTS largely used to provide wireless Internet service.
Subscriber Identity Module
IMS: IP Multimedia Subsystem.
PDCP
3G
Other, non-UMTS, 3G and 4G standards:

CDMA2000: evolved from the cmdaOne (also known as IS-95, or "CDMA") standard, managed by the 3GPP2
FOMA
TD-SCDMA
WiMAX: a newly emerging wide area wireless technology.
UMTS is an evolution of the GSM mobile phone standard.

GSM
GPRS
EDGE
ETSI
 

matthewpet

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copy paste比較快一點...不好意思了...簡單弄一下巴
上面說,
除了UTMS,還有其他3G的規格,比如FOMA,CDMA2000, TD-CDMA. 其他的都是些介紹,有興趣的區看看。我想的是,既然TD-CDMA和FOMA都寫一起,沒有理由FOMA能用903,但是TD-CDMA,CDMA2000不能用的亞~嘻嘻~